Marlys Gallager made this amazing artwork for Nancy Vickers of NV Cockers over 10 years ago and it was done in ink. The major detail and foundation all came from the original designer not the next two designers as they were reproductions!
Click for Marlys release of copyright statement and Marlys asking cease and desist using it or claiming rights to it to make sure I had my ducks in a row so to speak I and before I spent more money on recreating this logo on 07/31/2017 I got the original artist to release the copyright that way going forward I would not have any issues.
A 2nd version of the logo was created by Bar Butler.
According to Nancy, Bar was also commissioned thus giving up the copyright logo under state law. It became a big deal as Bar was then selling other colored versions of Nancy’s logo to others to use.
Marlys recently became aware of this whole situation and felt that she should have been contacted when Barbara Butler thought she owned the copyright to it after she basically colored it in. She did NOT own any copyrights to it. Bar labeled it pretty much her work which indeed really it was not at all.
Then a 3rd logo was created for Nancy roughly in March 2013 using the same foundation drawing from Marlys. In 2013 Nancy had it copyright protected through the US Copyright Registry as she had a similar issue with the last artist.
The 3rd logo reversion was done by Wendy Reyn – Winconline gave it an updated look.
Wendy was commissioned and Nancy owned the copyright to all the artworks created.
Per the screen shot dated March 22nd, 2013 from Wendy Reyn- Winconline -all images and logos are properties of their respective owners, they are not to be used with out permission.
On 11-3-2015 Nancy of Nv Cockers gave me permission to use any of the logos, gave me the copyrights to them and told me I can change them any way I see fit.
Click to see Statement from Nancy
I built my website and started using the 3rd logo as agreed upon by Nancy.
I posted in a non public Facebook group which then was shared by another breeder to her personal Facebook page which is seen by other breeders both in the United States, Canada and overseas.
“His name is Chrome, he is a sable seal parti boy (Genetically tested)
Reg. Aj’s Smoked Your Ash
His sire is Bo who is a Chocolate Sable Seal – Ch Sired/ Ch Dam
His Dam is Kissy who is tri color – Ch Sired/ Champion Dam
(My own bred by’s Neville x Tru)
I introduce him to you because he is my next generation sable male that I plan on using to breed to my Merle girls in order to produce Sable Merle parti’s.”
Since this was viewed by hundreds of Cocker breeders many that don’t like Merles, some of the breeders started to go to my website and I know this because I have a traffic finder added to see where and who is going to my website.
In November 2017 there was a Sable Cocker Spaniel vote through ASC which was trying to get passed to have Sables to be able to shown in the USA. I believe because of this posted being shared publicly those that were anti sable voted to not passes it because of their worries that sables would be mixed with Merle just giving the anti Sable people more ammo.
This post was shortly before the sable issue was going to be voted on.
In December 2017 I also learned that this same person that crossed posted this which started this whole mess with my logo also has a roan male, that male came out of Ch. Aj’s N Emerald’s Endeavour which I was the breeder of and he went back to several generations of my cockers such as CVJ N Aj’s Can’t Buy Me Love, Aj’s Heebee Jeebie, Homespun’s Vino Benito, Ch. Criterion Tri My Patience just to name a few. Here this person bashes Merle but this same person has a pedigree full of my stuff behind her beloved roan. How interesting.
It’s not just her there are others that I have found recently that are Anit Merle that have roans today that are the same way.
Back to what happened
Because of this posting breeders went to my site and then brought it to the attention of Wendy that I was using the said art work although I had the permission from the owner of the art work.
Because of this I was contacted on 7-30-2017 via email by Wendy- This is official notice to remove this logo and all versions of it on your website as it is copyright protected by myself and is a commissioned logo for NV Cockers.
She also went to Facebook and had them remove any material that I had with the logo and gave me 72 hours to remove the logo. I showed her the written statement from Nancy to prove that I just didn’t steal it, that I thought I went through the proper steps.
I sent a private message to Nancy of Nv Cockers about what was going on.
Nancy told Wendy that I could use it, told Wendy that she was completly out of cockers and I have no desire to get involved. Nancy told me, “Hopefully you two can come to an agreement”.
Nancy nor I knew that Wendy retained copyrights to it as an artist and that I couldn’t use it.
No, it was not stolen!
Wendy’s real reason is because she doesn’t design for breeders of non-showable colour dogs that carry colour gene mutations, as per the breed standard, due to the fallout from the Breed Club members.
My opinion rewording it, because I breed Merles she doesn’t want me to use it. Simple.
Back story, I had Wendy build my website for Aj Kennels years ago, that is roughly when she was big into building websites. Before she started building websites for the Canadian Kennel Club and other show breeders both anti-merle breeders. So, of course she didn’t want recourse with her actions of making a logo and letting it be a logo on a Merle breeders site. It’s that simple, it’s another back lash for breeding merles and being blackballed yet again by someone else.
The only reason that I had not went to Wendy to build my website this time around for Cakebread Cockers was because I use to maintain my own website before and I know I could build it myself this time around and maintain it just like have done for years with Aj Kennels.
So, I am just going to take it down even though I don’t believe I am in the wrong.
Not to upset about it though because I look at it like I got the foundation drawing and in dogs as long as you have a solid foundation you can achieve your goals, well most of the time!